{"id":8915,"date":"2010-10-04T11:19:26","date_gmt":"2010-10-04T09:19:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=8915"},"modified":"2010-10-04T11:19:26","modified_gmt":"2010-10-04T09:19:26","slug":"el-nobel-de-la-paz-y-la-politica-the-nobel-peace-and-policy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=8915","title":{"rendered":"EL NOBEL DE LA PAZ Y LA POL\u00cdTICA.THE NOBEL PEACE AND POLICY"},"content":{"rendered":"

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EL NOBEL DE LA PAZ Y LA POL\u00cdTICA<\/span><\/p>\n

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En la tertulia del University College, vamos a tratar si a Obama le beneficia o le perjudica pol\u00edticamente la concesi\u00f3n del Nobel de la Paz<\/span><\/p>\n

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El moderador interviene: dada la situaci\u00f3n pol\u00edtica por la que pasa en estos momentos los EE.UU no tenemos m\u00e1s remedio que analizarla teniendo en cuenta, que si Obama se presenta a la reelecci\u00f3n de Presidente,\u201dlo hace por primera vez en EE UU\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cUn Nobel de la Paz.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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Este tipo de distinciones, suele concederse a personas con una larga trayectoria\u00a0 como \u00e9l reconoci\u00f3 en el discurso de recogida del Nobel, copio textualmente\u201d : ser\u00eda una negligencia no reconocer la considerable controversia que su generosa decisi\u00f3n ha generado. En parte, esto se debe a que estoy al inicio y no\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 al final de mis labores en la escena mundial. En comparaci\u00f3n con algunos de los gigantes de la historia que han recibido este premio \u2013Schweitzer y King; Marshall y Mandela\u2013 mis logros son peque\u00f1os<\/em>.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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Tal vez se precipitaron concedi\u00e9ndole el Nobel, y \u00e9l no tuvo m\u00e1s remedio que aceptarlo.Pero \u00a0sab\u00eda que lo marcaba pol\u00edticamente.<\/span><\/p>\n

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El primero aparece: me he le\u00eddo su discurso y\u00a0 y \u00e9l expone claramente su situaci\u00f3n personal y dice: Pero quiz\u00e1 el asunto m\u00e1s controvertido en torno a mi aceptaci\u00f3n de este premio es el <\/em>hecho de que soy Comandante en Jefe de un ej\u00e9rcito de un pa\u00eds en medio de dos <\/em>guerras.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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Le interrumpe el segundo: de todas formas de una forma muy h\u00e1bil trata de justificar la guerra cuando se persigue la paz. Elogia a \u00a0Martin<\/em> Luther King<\/em> \u00a0por su no a la violencia,pero reconoce que su situaci\u00f3n pol\u00edtica se lo impide.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Aparece el tercero: has llegado \u00a0justamente al tema capital. \u00bfQu\u00e9 har\u00e1 Obama despu\u00e9s del galard\u00f3n del Nobel?<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00a0Entra en escena el cuarto: depende la valoraci\u00f3n que haga del Premio, para mi es \u00a0muy importante \u00a0en estos momentos haber recibido el Nobel de la Paz\u00a0 y por supuesto continuar el mandato de cuatro a\u00f1os y punto final\u2026. \u00bfPorqu\u00e9?,porque Obama como Nobel de la Paz, fuera de la presidencia de EEUU ,puede hacer una gran labor por la paz en el mundo, convirti\u00e9ndose en mediador entre las democracias de corte occidental y los paises isl\u00e1micos.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Vuelve el segundo: este planteamiento tuyo cambia la situaci\u00f3n pol\u00edtica en EEUU.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Le responde de nuevo el cuarto: no lo creo, Obama podr\u00eda ir\u00a0 buscando ya un sucesor\u00a0 que pueda continuar defendiendo sus planes .<\/span><\/p>\n

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Aparece el quinto :las Primarias son luchas de poder y se ve que hay un sector republicano que no quiere perder\u00a0 sus privilegios.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el moderador: hab\u00e9is ido demasiado lejos.Yo bien creo que\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Obama, considere su situaci\u00f3n,su triunfo fue \u00a0muy grande,\u00a0 \u201cque un negro llegue a la Casa Blanca\u201d, casi nada.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Pero \u00a0Obama tiene otras alternativas, si el pasa a un partido de la oposici\u00f3n de matiz social dem\u00f3crata, pude seguir enganchado en la pol\u00edtica.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Vuelve el primero: tu est\u00e1s dando por hecho que el bipartidismo se rompe despu\u00e9s de las primarias,<\/span><\/p>\n

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Le contesta el moderador, es m\u00e1s bien un deseo para bien de EEUU, las dos movimientos de \u00a0\u00a0Tea party y Coffee party pueden orquestar dos partidos uno de derechas y otro de izquierdas, que pueden convivir con los\u00a0 dos ya existentes.<\/span><\/p>\n

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THE NOBEL PEACE AND POLICY<\/span>
\nIn the gathering of University College, we’ll try if Obama politically benefit or harm the grant of the Nobel Peace Prize<\/span>
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Such distinctions, often given to people with a long history as he acknowledged in the collection of the Nobel speech, said \u00abI would be remiss not to acknowledge the considerable controversy that his generous decision has generated. In part this is because I’m at the beginning and not at the end of my work on the world stage. Compared to some of the giants of history who have received this award-Schweitzer and King, Marshall and Mandela-my accomplishments are small. \u00ab<\/span><\/p>\n

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Perhaps giving him the Nobel rushed..<\/span><\/p>\n

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The first says: I’ve read his speech and and he makes clear his personal situation and says: But perhaps the most controversial issue regarding my acceptance of this award is the fact that I am the Commander in Chief of an army of a country in the middle two wars<\/span><\/p>\n

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Intervenes the second: in any case in a very clever attempts to justify the war when peace is sought. Martin Luther King commended for its non-violence, but recognizes that the political situation prevents it<\/span><\/p>\n

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It appears the third, you got exactly the key issue. What Obama will decide after the Nobel prize?<\/span><\/p>\n

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comes the fourth: depends on the assessment by the Prize, for me it is very important at this time have received the Nobel Peace Prize and of course continue the four-year term and final point …. Why?, Because Obama and Nobel Peace outside the U.S. presidency, can do great work for peace in the world, becoming a mediator between western-style democracies and Islamic countries<\/span><\/p>\n

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Spoke moderator:. I rather think that Obama, consider their situation, their victory was great, \u00abthat a black man to reach the White House, almost anything.<\/span>
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Replied the moderator, is rather a desire for the good of the U.S., the two movements Coffee Tea party and party can orchestrate both parties., Which can coexist with the existing two<\/span><\/p>\n

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