{"id":8397,"date":"2010-09-07T11:48:51","date_gmt":"2010-09-07T09:48:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=8397"},"modified":"2010-09-07T11:49:17","modified_gmt":"2010-09-07T09:49:17","slug":"dos-guerras-distintas-irak-y-afganistan-two-separate-wars-iraq-and-afghanistan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=8397","title":{"rendered":"Dos guerras distintas: Irak y Afganist\u00e1n.Two separate wars: Iraq and Afghanistan"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Dos guerras distintas: Irak y Afganist\u00e1n<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Vamos a la tertulia del Colegio Mayor<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el primero, claro que son dos guerras muy distintas, la de Irak totalmente innecesaria y\u00a0 con un gran perjuicio para los objetivos en Afganist\u00e1n.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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El segundo aparece en escena: claro, si ese contingente de soldados y armamento se pone todo en Afganist\u00e1n, probablemente no se hubiese logrado la enorme insurgencia de los talibanes.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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El tercero nos dice: Despu\u00e9s de leer tantos comentarios period\u00edsticos, alguno muy bueno como el \u00a0\u00faltimo del Pa\u00eds semanal de Jes\u00fas Rodr\u00edguez, yo veo que urge una reuni\u00f3n mundial de l\u00edderes m\u00e1s significativos que est\u00e9n dispuestos, de verdad a convertir Afganist\u00e1n en un territorio sin la influencia de los talibanes y como dice muy bien Jes\u00fas Rodr\u00edguez:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201d Seg\u00fan el t\u00e1ndem Petraeus\/McChrystal, para obtener la victoria hay que contar con los afganos. \u201cHablarles con caridad y escucharles con respeto\u201d. Conocer su cultura; comprender el terreno que pisan; chapurrear su idioma; no ofenderles; no meterse en sus cuitas y tradiciones; respetar a los detenidos. \u201cComer, dormir y trabajar juntos\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Le interrumpe el cuarto: Expl\u00edcanos un poco en qu\u00e9 consiste eso de la \u201creuni\u00f3n de l\u00edderes m\u00e1s significativos?.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Le responde: Tu pregunta tiene su base, al menos los del G-20.Pero sobre todo aunque sea un poco exagerado el decirlo se trata de una guerra mundial contra el terrorismo de origen Isl\u00e1mico y los principales implicados est\u00e1n: Rusia, E.U.y la UE. Los dem\u00e1s pa\u00edses como la India ,Pakist\u00e1n y China, deben colaborar en la operaci\u00f3n.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Aparece el cuarto: Obama meti\u00f3 la pata, cuando anunci\u00f3 su retirada de Afganist\u00e1n el 2011,\u00a0 eso le hizo crecer a los talibanes. Lo que tiene que decir que se est\u00e1 preparando una invasi\u00f3n de Afganist\u00e1n\u00a0 a lo grande, por todos sus costados ,aire mar y tierra, con el menor n\u00famero de v\u00edctimas civiles y devolver de inmediato el poder a los Afganos. Conseguido esto se retirar\u00e1n a las zonas fronterizas para desde all\u00ed garantizar la paz.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el moderador, lo que dices es muy bonito, lo dif\u00edcil ser\u00e1 conseguirlo<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Aparece el quinto: me recuerdas la guerra de los siete d\u00edas: Israel golpe\u00f3 primero y desarm\u00f3 al enemigo. A los talibanes hay que quitarles la arrogancia de su inminente victoria, entrando a saco y recordando las palabras del general McChrystal\u201d \u201cNosotros tenemos mejores armas y t\u00e9cnicas de guerra. Pero los afganos hablan la lengua de los insurgentes, conocen sus costumbres y tienen mejores fuentes de informaci\u00f3n. Por eso es tan importante vivir y luchar a su lado\u201d.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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La invasi\u00f3n se hace para confraternizar con el pueblo Afgano, no van a ir solo militares ,sino expertos en trato humanitario conocedores de su lengua y respetuosos con sus costumbres.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Two separate wars: Iraq and Afghanistan<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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The first,\u00a0 is clear that are two wars very different, the Iraq totally unnecessary and with a great harm to the objectives in Afghanistan<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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The second appears on the scene:is clear, if that contingent of soldiers and armament puts everything in Afghanistan, probably had not been achieved the enormous insurgency of the Taliban.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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The third tells us: After reading so many comments journalistic, one very good as the last of the \u201cEl Pa\u00eds\u201d weekly of Jesus Rodriguez, i see that urges a global meeting of leaders more significant than are willing, of truth to convert Afghanistan in a territory without the influence of the Taliban and as said very well Jesus Rodriguez:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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According to the tandem Petraeus\/McChrystal, to get the victory must be reckoned with Afghans. \u00abTalk with charity and listen with respect.\u00bb Know your culture; To understand the ground that trample; to speak badly its language; no offend; not intrude in their troubles and traditions; respect for the detainees. \u00abEat, sleep and work together\u00bb.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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He interrupts the fourth: in what is that of the \u00ableaders meeting more significant?.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Replied: Your question has its basis, at least the G-20.But above all although it is a bit exaggerated the say it is a global war on terrorism of Islamic origin and the major players are: Russia, the U.S. and the EU. The other countries like India ,Pakistan and China, must work together in the operation.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Appears the fourth: Obama erred when it announced its withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2011, that made him grow to the Taliban. He has to say that it is preparing an invasion of Afghanistan to the great scale, by all sides ,air sea and land, with the smaller number of civilian casualties and return immediately the power to Afghans. This will withdraw to the border areas to from there ensure peace.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Appears the moderator, what you say it is very nicely, so difficult it will be achieved<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Tweet\u00a0 …………………………. Dos guerras distintas: Irak y Afganist\u00e1n \u00a0 Vamos a la tertulia del Colegio Mayor \u00a0 Interviene el primero, claro que son dos guerras muy distintas, la de Irak totalmente innecesaria y\u00a0 con un gran perjuicio para los objetivos en Afganist\u00e1n. \u00a0 El segundo aparece en escena: claro, si ese contingente de soldados y […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8397","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-etnopaisaje"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8397","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=8397"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8397\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8403,"href":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8397\/revisions\/8403"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=8397"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=8397"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=8397"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}