{"id":8160,"date":"2010-08-30T13:00:27","date_gmt":"2010-08-30T11:00:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=8160"},"modified":"2010-08-30T13:00:27","modified_gmt":"2010-08-30T11:00:27","slug":"el-embajador-de-estados-unidos-nos-da-el-pesame-por-el-asesinato-de-los-guardias-civiles-the-united-states-ambassador-gives-us-the-condolences-for-the-murder-of-the-civil-guards","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=8160","title":{"rendered":"EL embajador de Estados Unidos nos da el p\u00e9same por el asesinato de los Guardias civiles.The United States Ambassador gives us the condolences for the murder of the civil guards"},"content":{"rendered":"

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EL embajador de Estados Unidos nos da el p\u00e9same por el asesinato de los Guardias civiles<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0 Vayamos a la tertulia del Colegio Mayor<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el primero:\u201d la carta del embajador de Estados Unidos, merece nuestro profundo respeto y apunta la necesidad imperiosa de las tropas en Afganistan. \u201c<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Un segundo comenta: la carta del embajador es de un diplom\u00e1tico y hay que saber leer \u201centre comillas\u201d ..<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Aparece el moderador,\u201d \u00bfQu\u00e9 es eso de las comillas? Me tienes intrigado \u201c<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Le responde el embajador\u00a0 dice textualmente \u201c,Si no logramos el \u00e9xito, Afganist\u00e1n se convertir\u00e1 de nuevo en un campamento terrorista. Pakist\u00e1n, su vecino nuclearizado, se desestabilizar\u00e1. Como ha explicado el secretario general de la OTAN, Rasmussen, el extremismo podr\u00eda extenderse r\u00e1pidamente de esa regi\u00f3n hacia Asia Central y Europa\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el tercero: el asunto es muy grave. Veo que estos momentos los americanos est\u00e1n muy preocupados, porque los talibanes se hagan con Pakist\u00e1n, que tiene armamento at\u00f3mico. No se puede confundir la India con Pakist\u00e1n que es mucho m\u00e1s segura de su armamento nuclear. Y en estos momentos con 24 millones de desplazados puede ocurrir de todo, por ejemplo, un nuevo golpe militar.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Un cuarto, comenta: un poco de calma\u00a0 no extrememos las cosas<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Aparece el quinto:\u201d bueno despu\u00e9s de\u00a0 o\u00edr las declaraciones del general David Petraeus<\/em> \u00a0\u00a0a la BBC, veo que el asunto est\u00e1 tenso.Pues las palabras de Obama, de retirar las tropas en el 2011, se pueden interpretar como electoralistas dado el cansancio del pueblo americano a sus combates externos\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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El quinto a\u00f1ade:\u201dpero ya han\u00a0 surgido voces cr\u00edticas desde Kabul,\u00a0 si los americanos piensan\u00a0 en\u00a0 retirarse, los talibanes se crecen\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Interviene el sexto:\u201d es todo muy complicado, el general Petraeus parece un hombre prudente y honesto, cuando dice que \u00e9l tiene que decirle lo que piensa a Obama\u2026y bajo su estrategia militar es posible que en al menos 5 a\u00f1os no logre que el gobierno afgano tenga fuerza suficiente para controlar los previsibles ataques de los talibanes\u201d.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00a0Vuelve el primero, yo creo que nos estamos alargando hoy, pero tal vez estemos llegando a una triste realidad.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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The United States Ambassador gives us the condolences for the murder of the civil guards<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Go to the meeting of University College<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

The first: the letter of the ambassador of the United States, deserves our deep respect and pointing to the imperative of troops in Afghanistan.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

A second says: the charter of the ambassador is a diplomat and we need to know how to read \u00abbetween the lines<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Appears the moderator,\u00bb What is that of the between lines? I have intrigued \u00ab<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

He said the ambassador says \u00ab, if we do not succeed, Afghanistan will become again in a terrorist camp. Pakistan, its neighbor nuclearized, destabilize. As explained by secretary-general of NATO, Rasmussen, extremism could spread quickly in that region toward Central Asia and Europe\u00bb<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

The third: the case is very serious. I see that the moment the Americans are very worried, because the Taliban are made with Pakistan, which has atomic weapons. Not to be confused India with Pakistan that is much more secure its nuclear weapons. And at the moment with 24 million displaced can occur in all, for example, a new military coup.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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A fourth, says: a bit of calm not \u00a0to exaggerate things<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

The fifth:\u00bb good after hearing the statements by the general David Petraeus to the BBC, i see that the matter is tense.As the words of Obama, to withdraw the troops in 2011, can be interpreted as electioneering given the fatigue of the American people to their fighting external\u00bb<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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The fifth added:\u00bbbut they have already emerged critical voices from Kabul, if the Americans think in withdrawing, the Taliban grow<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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The sixth:\u00bb is all very complicated, the general Petraeus seems a wise man and honest, when he says that he has to say what you think to Obama\u2026and under its military strategy is possible that at least 5 years did not achieve the Afghan government has enough strength to control the predictable attacks of the Taliban\u00bb.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Becomes the first, i believe that we are overrunning today, but perhaps we are coming to a sad reality.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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