{"id":8125,"date":"2010-08-23T22:23:50","date_gmt":"2010-08-23T20:23:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=8125"},"modified":"2010-08-24T16:52:36","modified_gmt":"2010-08-24T14:52:36","slug":"%c2%bfintegrar-o-aislar-a-hamas-causa-palestina","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=8125","title":{"rendered":"\u00bfIntegrar o aislar a Ham\u00e1s?. Causa Palestina.Integrate or isolate Hamas?. Palestinian Cause"},"content":{"rendered":"

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\u00bfIntegrar o aislar a Ham\u00e1s?\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Leo este art\u00edculo en el Pais :\u00bfIntegrar o aislar a Ham\u00e1s?\u00a0\u00a0 y me parece muy acertado, cuando cuestiona dejar \u00a0a Hamas fuera de las negociones en Estados unidos con Israel.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Vayamos a la tertulia del Colegio Mayor, el tema de hoy es:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0Negociaciones entre Palestinos e Israel\u00edes<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el primero: no veo claro una negociaci\u00f3n con los Palestinos ahora, cuando hay dos mini estados:Gaza y Cisjordania que est\u00e1n enfrentados.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Aislar a Gaza, que es cuna de terroristas no parece acertado<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Aparece el segundo: me \u00a0he enterado, que hubo un intento de acercamiento de las dos ramas de palestinos, pero que se frustr\u00f3 al no ser convocados los de\u00a0Hamas<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Nos dice el tercero :he leido en la prensa: \u201cEl Movimiento de Resistencia Isl\u00e1mica (Ham\u00e1s) ha anunciado el aplazamiento indefinido de la reuni\u00f3n prevista para el s\u00e1bado en la Ciudad de Gaza con responsables de Al Fat\u00e1, el partido del presidente palestino, Mahmud Abbas, para proseguir con las negociaciones para la reconciliaci\u00f3n de ambas facciones palestinas\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0Digo yo ,no ser\u00eda mas oportuno buscar esta reconciliaci\u00f3n y despu\u00e9s negociar?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Sale el quarto al debate, \u201cpienso que tal vez lo de las negociaciones en Estados Unidos, sea mas bien una campa\u00f1a de buenas intenciones cara la galer\u00eda y que\u00a0 quede en agua de borrajas, como ha sucedido tantas veces. \u201c<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene otro: no entiendo como Obama no ve \u00a0el peligro y riesgo para \u00e9l de dar curso a esas negociaciones, sobretodo\u00a0 viendo de antemano un fracaso y que Hamas lo pude capitalizar y volverse contra \u00e9l<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Le dice el primero: \u00a0el asunto es complicado, Obama como Presidente de estados Unidos tiene que ceder a que se celebren esas negociaciones, ya \u00a0est\u00e1 insistiendo con los Israel\u00eds que no hagan m\u00e1s asentamientos en los territorios ocupados\u2026..<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Le interrumpe el segundo esto es insuficiente, pero si calma los \u00e1nimos, pude ser \u00fatil<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Aparece un quinto: no est\u00e1is abordando el debate, con rigor ,os falta informaci\u00f3n<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Le interrumpe el moderador: \u00bfCu\u00e1l?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00a0Las declaraciones \u00faltimas de Hamas: \u00a0Los principales grupos palestinos a excepci\u00f3n del movimiento Al Fat\u00e1 del presidente palestino, Mahmud Abbas, han hecho p\u00fablica una declaraci\u00f3n este domingo en la que instan al mandatario palestino a no ceder a la presi\u00f3n estadounidense para la reanudaci\u00f3n de las conversaciones directas con Israel, un paso que consideran peligroso.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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El Frente Popular para la Liberaci\u00f3n de Palestina (FPLP) alega que las negociaciones directas no deben comenzar sin una supervisi\u00f3n internacional y sin el levantamiento del bloqueo de la Franja de Gaza.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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El bloqueo israel\u00ed y el boicoteo internacional representan dos caras de la misma moneda porque, en definitiva, persiguen el mismo objetivo: asfixiar a Ham\u00e1s en su feudo de Gaza.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Dice el tercero:Sigo pensando, que el tema de Gaza es esencial y negociar sin ellos es agravar m\u00e1s la situaci\u00f3n<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Vamos que tu eres partidario de que no se celebren,le dicen<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el sexto yo creo que la estrategia de Estados Unidos\u00a0 ser\u00eda enviar un claro mensaje a Ham\u00e1s, a los palestinos y a la regi\u00f3n en su conjunto: \u201cla ideolog\u00eda de la organizaci\u00f3n islamista y sus pr\u00e1cticas no tienen espacio\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Para finalizar pongamos los comentarios de \u00a0Ignacio Alvarez-Ossorio en el Pa\u00eds \u201cEn un contexto en el que el presidente norteamericano Barack Obama ha mostrado su disposici\u00f3n a dialogar con los talibanes afganos y los insurgentes iraqu\u00edes, cuesta entender el veto de la Casa Blanca a Ham\u00e1s, que nunca ha atentado contra intereses americanos<\/strong><\/span>\u201d<\/p>\n

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Integrate or isolate Hamas?. Palestinian Cause<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00a0I read this article in El Pais<\/em> : Integrate or isolate H<\/strong><\/span>amas?, I feel very successful when questions let Hamas off the negociones in the United States with Israel<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Let’s go to the meeting of University College, today’s topic is: Negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Spoke first: I do not see clear negotiations with the Palestinians now, when there are two mini-states: Gaza and the West Bank are facing<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Isolate Gaza, which is the birthplace of terrorists does not seem right<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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It appears the second: I’ve heard that there was an attempted rapprochement between the two branches of Palestinians, but was frustrated by not being called the Hamas<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

He says the third: I read in the press: \u00abThe Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) has announced the indefinite postponement of the meeting scheduled for Saturday in Gaza City with leaders of Fatah,If the party of Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas to continue negotiations for reconciliation between the two Palestinian factions.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00a0\u00abI said, it would be more appropriate to seek this reconciliation and next negotiate?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Exit fourth the debate, \u00abI think perhaps the negotiations in the U.S., is rather a campaign of good intentions face the gallery and it is nothing, as has happened so many times. \u00ab<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Spoke another: do not understand how Obama does not see the danger and risk for him to proceed with these negotiations, especially previewing a failure and that Hamas could capitalize on and turn it against him<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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He said the first: the issue is complicated, Obama as President of the United States has to yeld to celebrate those negotiations, He are insisting the Israelis \u00a0they do not make more settlements in the occupied territories …<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

He interrupts the second it is insufficient, but if calm spirits, i could be useful<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0appears a fifth: you are not addressing the debate, with rigor , lack information<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

He interrupted the moderator: What?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

The statements of Hamas: The main Palestinian groups with the exception of the movement To The Fat\u00e1 of Palestinian president, Mahmud Abbas, have made a public statement this Sunday in which they urge the Palestinian leader not to yield to u.s. pressure for they have resumed the\u00a0 direct talks\u00a0 with Israel, a step that considered dangerous.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) argues that direct negotiations should not begin without a international supervision and without lifting the blockade of the Gaza Strip.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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The Israeli blockade and the international boycott represent two sides of the same currency because, ultimately, have the same goal: stifle Hamas in its stronghold in Gaza.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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He said the third:I still believe, that the issue of Gaza is essential and negotiate without them is further aggravate the situation<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0Replied the moderator,i see that you to be in favour \u00a0that do not hold<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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The sixth i believe that the U.S. strategy would be to send a clear message to Hamas, the Palestinians and to the region as a whole: \u00abthe ideology of the Islamic organization and its practices do not have space\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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To finish put the opinions of Ignacio Alvarez-Ossorio in the country \u00abIn a context in which the American president Barack Obama has shown its willingness to engage in dialog with the Taliban Afghan and Iraqi insurgents, hard to understand the veto of the White House to Hamas, which has never attack against American interests\u00bb<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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