{"id":31446,"date":"2015-07-01T12:35:16","date_gmt":"2015-07-01T10:35:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=31446"},"modified":"2015-07-01T12:35:16","modified_gmt":"2015-07-01T10:35:16","slug":"nobel-de-economia-yo-se-como-votaria-en-el-referendum-griego-nobel-prize-in-economics-i-know-how-i-would-vote-in-the-referendum-in-greek","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=31446","title":{"rendered":"Nobel de econom\u00eda: \u00abYo s\u00e9 c\u00f3mo votar\u00eda en el refer\u00e9ndum griego\u00bb.Nobel Prize in Economics: \u00abI know how I would vote in the referendum in Greek"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Nobel Prize <\/strong>in<\/strong> Economics: \u00abI know how I would vote in the referendum in Greek<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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La verdadera naturaleza de la disputa sobre la deuda griega tiene mucho m\u00e1s que ver con el poder y la democracia que con el dinero y la econom\u00eda, considera Joseph E. Stiglitz, profesor de la Universidad de Columbia y premio nobel de econom\u00eda en 2001, quien analiza las dos opciones que tendr\u00e1n los griegos en el refer\u00e9ndum del pr\u00f3ximo 5 de junio.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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El programa que la Troika impuso a Grecia hace cinco a\u00f1os ha sido p\u00e9simo, ya que ha resultado en una disminuci\u00f3n del 25% del PIB del pa\u00eds<\/strong>\u00ab, escribe el economista en un art\u00edculo para ‘The Guardian’<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abNo se me ocurre ninguna depresi\u00f3n, nunca, que haya sido tan deliberada<\/strong> y haya tenido\u00a0consecuencias tan catastr\u00f3ficas\u00bb, explica el autor, recordando que la tasa de desempleo entre los j\u00f3venes en Grecia ahora supera el 60%.<\/span><\/p>\n

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No se trata de dinero. Se trata de utilizar ‘plazos’ para obligar a Grecia a doblegarse y aceptar lo inaceptable<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Seg\u00fan Stiglitz, \u00abes sorprendente que la Troika se haya negado a aceptar la responsabilidad<\/strong> en todo eso o admitir lo malas que han sido sus previsiones y modelos\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Pero lo que es a\u00fan m\u00e1s sorprendente, prosigue, es que \u00ablos l\u00edderes de Europa ni siquiera hayan aprendido algo\u00bb y sigan exigiendo que Grecia logre un super\u00e1vit presupuestario primario del 3,5% del PIB en 2018, aunque \u00ablos economistas de todo el mundo han condenado ese objetivo por punitivo, pues\u00a0intentar lograrlo resultar\u00eda inevitablemente en una recesi\u00f3n m\u00e1s profunda\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abGrecia no ha conseguido otra cosa que miseria<\/strong>, pero ha pagado un precio muy alto para preservar los sistemas bancarios de estos pa\u00edses\u00bb, lamenta Stiglitz, apuntando que los acreedores no necesitan el dinero que est\u00e1n exigiendo.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abPero, de nuevo, no se trata de dinero. Se trata de utilizar ‘plazos’ para obligar a Grecia a doblegarse y aceptar lo inaceptable: no s\u00f3lo las medidas de austeridad, sino\u00a0tambi\u00e9n pol\u00edticas regresivas y punitivas\u00bb, afirma el experto.<\/span><\/p>\n

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En su opini\u00f3n, lo que estamos viendo ahora en la Eurozona<\/a> \u00abes la ant\u00edtesis de la democracia\u00bb<\/strong> y es por eso por lo que muchos l\u00edderes europeos quieren ver el final del Gobierno izquierdista del primer ministro Alexis Tsipras<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Sepa m\u00e1s:\u00a0\u00bfQu\u00e9 es el ‘corralito’ griego? Se lo explicamos punto por punto<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abEs dif\u00edcil aconsejar a los griegos c\u00f3mo votar el 5 de julio<\/a>. Ninguna de las alternativas \u2013la aprobaci\u00f3n o el rechazo de los t\u00e9rminos de la Troika\u2013 va a ser f\u00e1cil, y ambas conllevan riesgos enormes\u00bb, se\u00f1ala el economista.<\/span><\/p>\n

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A su juicio, \u00abvotar ‘s\u00ed’ significar\u00eda una depresi\u00f3n casi sin fin<\/strong>\u00bb y aunque existe la posibilidad de que un pa\u00eds empobrecido finalmente \u00abobtenga el perd\u00f3n de la deuda\u00bb, este proceso podr\u00eda durar una d\u00e9cada o incluso m\u00e1s.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Por el contrario, \u00abvotar ‘no’ al menos abrir\u00eda la posibilidad de que Grecia<\/strong>, con su fuerte tradici\u00f3n democr\u00e1tica, tome las riendas de su destino con sus propias manos\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abLos griegos podr\u00edan ganarse la oportunidad de dar forma a un futuro que, aunque tal vez no sea tan pr\u00f3spero como el pasado, ser\u00eda\u00a0mucho m\u00e1s esperanzador que la tortura desmesurada del presente\u00bb, escribe Stiglitz.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abYo s\u00e9 c\u00f3mo votar\u00eda<\/strong>\u00ab, concluye el nobel de econom\u00eda………….<\/span><\/p>\n

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The true nature of the dispute over the Greek debt has much more to do with power and democracy than with money and economics, believes Joseph E. Stiglitz, Professor at Columbia University and nobel prize for Economics in 2001, who analyzes the two options that the Greeks will take in the referendum of June 5.<\/span><\/p>\n

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The program imposed by the Troika to Greece five years ago has been lousy, since it has resulted in a decrease of 25% of the GDP of the country\u00bb, writes the Economist in an article for ‘The Guardian’.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abI can’t think of any depression, ever, that has been so deliberately and has had such catastrophic consequences\u00bb, explains the author, recalling that the unemployment rate among young people in Greece now exceeds 60%.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abIt is not money. It is to use ‘time’ to force Greece to bow and accept the unacceptable<\/span><\/p>\n

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According to Stiglitz, \u00abit is surprising that the Troika has refused to accept responsibility for all that or admit how bad that have been their forecasts and models\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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But what is even more surprising, continues, is that \u00abthe leaders of Europe have not even learned something\u00bb and continue calling for Greece to achieve a primary budget surplus of 3.5 percent of GDP in 2018, although \u00abeconomists from around the world have condemned this objective by punitive, because attempting to do so would inevitably result in a deeper recession\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abGreece has not achieved anything other than misery, but has paid a very high price to preserve the banking systems of these countries,\u00bb laments Stiglitz, pointing that the creditors do not need the money they are demanding.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abBut, again, it is not money. \u00abIs to use ‘time’ to force Greece to bowing and accepting the unacceptable: not only measures of austerity, but also regressive and punitive policies\u00bb, says the expert.<\/span><\/p>\n

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In your opinion, what we are seeing now in the eurozone \u00abis the antithesis of democracy\u00bb and that’s why what many European leaders want to see the end of the left-wing Government of Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Learn more: what is ‘playpen’ Greek? Will explain point by point<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abIt is difficult to advise the Greeks how to vote on July 5. None of the alternatives – the approval or rejection of the terms of the Troika – won’t be easy, and both involve enormous risks,\u00bbsays the Economist.<\/span><\/p>\n

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In his view, \u00abvote ‘yes’ would mean a depression almost endless\u00bb and although there is the possibility that a country impoverished finally \u00abget the forgiveness of debt\u00bb, this process could take a decade or even more.<\/span><\/p>\n

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On the contrary, \u00abvote ‘no’ at least would open the possibility of Greece, with its strong democratic tradition, to take the reins of its destiny with their own hands\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00bb The Greeks could earn the opportunity to shape a future that, while perhaps not as prosperous as the past, would be much more encouraging than the present excessive torture \u00bb, writes Stiglitz.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abI know how I would vote,\u00bb concludes the nobel in economics<\/span><\/p>\n

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