{"id":10051,"date":"2010-12-21T19:20:03","date_gmt":"2010-12-21T17:20:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?page_id=10051"},"modified":"2010-12-21T19:20:03","modified_gmt":"2010-12-21T17:20:03","slug":"el-islam-segun-amin-maalouf-islam-by-amin-maalouf","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?page_id=10051","title":{"rendered":"EL islam seg\u00fan Amin Maalouf.Islam by Amin Maalouf"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Vamos a\u00a0 la tertulia del University College<\/span><\/p>\n

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EL moderador interviene: Amin Maalouf \u00a0\u00a0en su libro\u201d! El desajuste del\u00a0 mundo, culpa tanto al Occidente como al Oriente\u2026As\u00ed dice\u00a0 \u00a1 Sigo convencido por mi parte\u00a0 de que la civilizaci\u00f3n occidental cre\u00f3 m\u00e1s valores universales que cualquier otra; pero demostr\u00f3 que era incapaz de trasmitirlos adecuadamente. Un fallo cuyo precio est\u00e1 pagando\u00a0 ahora toda la humanidad<\/em>. Y respecto a algunas zonas del tercer mundo.. Comenta..! La forma en que se vive la religi\u00f3n en tierras del Islam es reflejo del callej\u00f3n sin salida \u00a0hist\u00f3rico en que se hallan los pueblos; si salen de \u00e9l volver\u00e1n a dar con los vers\u00edculos adecuados para la democracia, para la modernidad, para el laicismo, para la coexistencia.!<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interrumpe el primero: Cuando comenta que los musulmanes est\u00e1n en un callej\u00f3n hist\u00f3rico sin salida,se pregunta \u00bfDe\u00a0 qui\u00e9n es la culpa de este proceso? Es dif\u00edcil dar una repuesta, puede que la culpa sea de los \u00e1rabes, los musulmanes y la forma en que viven su religi\u00f3n,\u00a0 pero hay una gran responsabilidad de los occidentales por la forma en que llevan desde hace siglos manejando sus relaciones con los dem\u00e1s pueblos<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el segundo: a m\u00ed una de las cosas que m\u00e1s me a gustado del libro de Amin cuando se interroga si de verdad intentaron las potencias occidentales implantar sus valores en sus antiguas posesiones \u00a0. El dice que no por desdicha. M\u00e1s bien nunca aceptaron que los\u201d \u00a0Ind\u00edgenas\u00a0 \u201c sometidos a su autoridad administrativa predicasen la libertad, y la igualdad. De modo que las \u00e9lites de los pa\u00edses colonizados no tuvieron m\u00e1s elecci\u00f3n que apoderarse en contra de la voluntad del colonizador de esos valores en contra de este.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el tercero: a m\u00ed me sorprende\u00a0 cuando dice \u00a0que se ha abusado de que los pa\u00edses musulmanes no est\u00e1 preparados para democracia, cuando es una mentira. M\u00e1s bien rechazan a los que la utilizan como propaganda pol\u00edtica, pero en realidad lo que les interesa es someter a los pueblos. Est\u00e1 claro que los Iraqu\u00edes rechazaron a la democracia norteamericana por sus comportamientos at\u00edpicos As\u00ed dice \u00a1 Occidente se enemist\u00f3 <ante todo> con las \u00e9lites partidarias de la modernidad, mientras que con las fuerzas retr\u00f3gradas siempre encontr\u00f3 apa\u00f1os, \u00e1mbitos donde entenderse, convergencia de intereses \u00a1<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el cuarto: Amin a Occidente lo deja mal parado cuando dice \u00a1siempre estuvo dividido entre el deseo de civilizar al mundo y la voluntad de dominarlo. <\/em>Este encuentro fallido entre las civilizaciones lo est\u00e1 pagando muy caro los pueblos de Oriente porque se han visto privados de sus sectores m\u00e1s modernos que habr\u00edan podido cimentar sociedades de libertad y democracia.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el Quinto: Amin, respecto a terrorismo del Islam, tienen sus apoyos y no peque\u00f1os. As\u00ed dice..! Esta idea de que Occidente se enfrenta a un pu\u00f1ado de terroristas que hablan de forma abusiva en nombre del Islam y cuyos actos es probable que repruebe la mayor\u00eda de los creyentes no siempre se corresponde con la realidad .Los atentados y los conflictos armados, los disculpan o incluso, a veces lo aplauden<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el sexto: el pone una vez m\u00e1s en evidencia la confrontaci\u00f3n entre las dos civilizaciones cuando dice\u2026! Para unos el islam ha demostrado que es incapaz de hacer suyos los valores universales que predica Occidente; para otros, Occidente es ante todo el portador de una voluntad de dominio universal a la que los musulmanes intentan oponer resistencia con los medios limitados que a\u00fan le quedan.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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EL moderador Comenta: finalizaremos la tertulia con unas frases de Amin, que nos har\u00e1n reflexionar en las tertulias posteriores \u00a1Una de las grandes lecciones del siglo que acaba de concluir es que las ideolog\u00edas pasan y las religiones permanecen. Lo que hace a las religiones virtualmente indestructibles es que les brinda a sus adeptos el ancla de una identidad duradera. En varias etapas de la Historia pareci\u00f3 que prevalec\u00edan otras solidaridades m\u00e1s nuevas, m\u00e1s modernas: la clase, la naci\u00f3n. Pero hasta ahora, la religi\u00f3n ha tenido siempre la \u00faltima palabra. Pensaron que se la pod\u00eda expulsar del \u00e1mbito p\u00fablico para confinarla solo dentro de las fronteras del culto. Y vemos que la religi\u00f3n es pr\u00f3spera, conquistadora e incluso invasora \u00a0en muchas ocasiones, sobre todo en tierras del Islam<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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Islam by Amin Maalouf
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\nThe moderator intervenes: Amin Maalouf in his book! The imbalance in the world, blames both the West and the East … It says I’m still convinced that Western civilization has created more than any other universal values, but showed that it was unable to transmit them properly. A decision is now paying the price of which all humanity. And on some parts of the Third World .. Comment ..! The way in which religion is lived in the lands of Islam reflects the historic impasse that people are, if it come back to find suitable verses for democracy, for modernity to secularism, for coexistence.!<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interrupts the first: When says that Muslims are in an alley historic without exit,wondered who is the fault of this process? It is difficult to give a record, can the fault of the Arabs, Muslims and the manner in which they live their religion, but there is a great responsibility of the but there is a great responsibility of the western for the manner in which bear for centuries handling its relations with other peoples<\/span><\/p>\n

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Involving the second, to me one of the things I liked about the book to Amin when questioned if he really tried to Western powers to implement their values in their former possessions. He says that unfortunately. Rather never accepted that the <Indigenous> under its administrative authority preach freedom and equality. So the elites of the colonized countries had no choice but to take over against the will of the colonizer of those values against this<\/span><\/p>\n

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Involving the third, surprises me when he says he has abused that Muslim countries are not prepared for democracy when it is a lie. Rather reject those who use it as political propaganda, but what really interests them is to subject peoples. . It is clear that the Iraqis refused to American democracy by their behavior atypical says \u00a1 West is falling with the elites partisan of modernity, while with the forces backward always found fix, areas where understood, convergence of interests \u00a1<\/span><\/p>\n

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The fourth: Amin to the West makes bad stopped when he says always was divided between the desire to civilize the world and the desire to dominate. This meeting failed between civilizations is paying dearly the peoples of the East \u00a0because they have been deprived of their sectors more modern than could have been cement companies of freedom and democracy<\/span><\/p>\n

The Fifth: Amin, regarding terrorism of Islam, have their support and not small. It said ! This idea that the West is faced with a handful of terrorists who speak of improperly in the name of Islam and whose acts is likely to fails the majority of believers not always correspond with reality .The attacks and armed conflict, the apology or even, sometimes they applaud<\/span><\/p>\n

Involving the sixth, he puts in evidence once again the confrontation between the two civilizations as you say …! For some, Islam has shown that it is unable to endorse the West preaches universal values, for others, the West is primarily a carrier of a universal desire to dominate the Muslims try to resist the media still has limited .<\/span><\/p>\n

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The Moderator comment: the gathering will conclude with some words of Amin, that make us reflect.<\/span><\/p>\n

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! one of the great lessons of the century that has just concluded is that the ideologies pass and religions remain. At various stages of history seemed to prevail other solidarities newer, more modern, class, nation. But until now, religion has always had the last word. They thought that it could expel from the public to confine only within the boundaries of religion. And we see that religion is thriving, triumphant and even invasive in many cases, especially in Islamic lands<\/span><\/p>\n

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