{"id":34602,"date":"2016-06-10T14:12:40","date_gmt":"2016-06-10T12:12:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=34602"},"modified":"2016-06-10T14:12:40","modified_gmt":"2016-06-10T12:12:40","slug":"condenada-a-caerse-por-que-los-europeos-estan-hartos-de-la-union-europea-condemned-to-fall-why-the-europeans-are-fed-up-with-the-european-union","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=34602","title":{"rendered":"..Condenada a caerse\u00bb: \u00bfpor qu\u00e9 los europeos est\u00e1n hartos de la Uni\u00f3n Europea?…Condemned to fall\u00bb: why the Europeans are fed up with the European Union?"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Condemned to fall\u00bb: why the Europeans are fed up with the European Union?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

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Seg\u00fan el informe\u00a0titulado \u201cEuroescepticismo m\u00e1s all\u00e1 del Brexit<\/a>\u201d, llevado a cabo por el Pew Research Center, Espa\u00f1a est\u00e1 entre los tres pa\u00edses cuyos ciudadanos tienen una visi\u00f3n m\u00e1s negativa de la Union Europea, s\u00f3lo por detr\u00e1s de Grecia y Francia.<\/span><\/p>\n

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A simple vista, la oleada de euro-escepticismo que refleja este sondeo, que cont\u00f3 con una muestra de 10.000 personas en diez pa\u00edses Europeos (Alemania, Francia, Espa\u00f1a, Reino Unido, Grecia, Polonia, Hungr\u00eda, Suecia, Holanda e Italia) parece f\u00e1cilmente atribuible a tres problemas fundamentales: la actual crisis migratoria, el sufrimiento ocasionado por las pol\u00edticas de austeridad, y la propia crisis del bloque europeo, sobre el que planea incluso\u00a0 la sombra del refer\u00e9ndum de permanencia en el Reino Unido, popularmente conocido como \u201cBrexit\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n

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En RT hemos querido profundizar en el an\u00e1lisis de las causas de esta creciente antipat\u00eda ciudadana hacia la Uni\u00f3n Europea, con la ayuda de dos expertos conocedores de la historia y la realidad de la regi\u00f3n, distantes sin embargo en su postura al respecto<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00cd\u00f1igo Cruz Martinez es Vicepresidente de la Union de Europeistas y Federalistas en Madrid<\/a>\u00a0(UEF), y autor del blog \u201cYa semos europeos\u201d<\/a>, una simp\u00e1tica iniciativa on-line<\/em> para facilitar el acceso de los ciudadanos a la comprensi\u00f3n de la Uni\u00f3n Europea.\u00a0 En su opini\u00f3n, las razones que explican la antipat\u00eda de Grecia, Francia y Espa\u00f1a tienen principalmente una\u00a0 doble ra\u00edz com\u00fan: \u201cPor un lado, la crisis de los refugiados afecta considerablemente a la imagen de la Uni\u00f3n Europea en su conjunto. Y por otro, los gobiernos locales han utilizado como excusa la inoperancia conjunta de todos los pa\u00edses, para que la culpa y la mala imagen recaiga sobre la Uni\u00f3n Europea, cuando realmente son los estados nacionales los que en muchos casos no est\u00e1n actuando bien. Hay que recordar, por ejemplo, que hace m\u00e1s de un a\u00f1o, el presidente de la Comisi\u00f3n Europea, Jean-Claude Juncker, propuso un plan de acogida a los refugiados que fue oficialmente aceptado, pero en la pr\u00e1ctica ning\u00fan estado lo cumpli\u00f3, excepto Alemania y los pa\u00edses n\u00f3rdicos. En el caso de Grecia, hay que sumar adem\u00e1s que ellos han sentido una gran falta de solidaridad com\u00fan y lo han percibido como un problema de la Uni\u00f3n Europea en su conjunto<\/span><\/p>\n

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Con respecto a Espa\u00f1a, \u00cd\u00f1igo Cruz cree que \u201cel principal motivo de esta antipat\u00eda hacia la Uni\u00f3n Europea son las pol\u00edticas de austeridad, combinado con el efecto global de la crisis migratoria. El gobierno espa\u00f1ol se ha escudado, para llevar a cabo sus ajustes y recortes, en que Bruselas lo impon\u00eda, pero la realidad es que siendo parte de una moneda com\u00fan y de una estructura com\u00fan como es la Union Europea, tenemos una serie de compromisos y deberes. La Union Europea est\u00e1 ah\u00ed para velar por eso. Pero para los gobiernos locales resulta muy c\u00f3modo echar la culpa a otro. Recordemos que desde la propia Comisi\u00f3n hac\u00eda a\u00f1os que se ven\u00edan requiriendo una serie de mejoras en nuestro sistema econ\u00f3mico, y esas reformas no se llevaron a cabo en su momento; y esto tiene un precio. Muchas veces la ciudadan\u00eda percibe que la culpa viene desde afuera, pero es necesario un esfuerzo interno para poder cumplir y estar al d\u00eda. No se debe echar la culpa al club com\u00fan si somos nosotros los que no cumplimos todas las normas desde el principio<\/span><\/p>\n

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Preguntado sobre la posible existencia de alguna fuerza pol\u00edtica en Espa\u00f1a que pudiera estar interesada en forzar o proponer una salida de Espa\u00f1a de la Union Europea o del Eurogrupo, responde que \u201ces cierto que se utiliza eso del euro como un tema pol\u00edtico, pero s\u00f3lo de una manera populista. Entre las cuatro fuerzas principales, digamos que una de ellas, con intenci\u00f3n de focalizar el voto a su favor, puede rozar esa linea, pero a\u00fan as\u00ed, cuando se llega al gobierno la realidad es que no se puede salir del proyecto europeo sin pagar un precio alt\u00edsimo, mucho mayor que el de estar dentro. Popularmente se dice que dentro de la Uni\u00f3n Europea se est\u00e1 mal, pero fuera de ella hace much\u00edsimo m\u00e1s fr\u00edo.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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En opini\u00f3n de Cruz, las ventajas de pertenecer a la Uni\u00f3n Europea \u201cson muchas, aunque no queramos verlas. A veces con el paso del tiempo nos acostumbramos a lo bueno y olvidamos de donde viene; como por ejemplo la paz que reina entre los estados miembros. Adem\u00e1s est\u00e1 demostrado emp\u00edricamente que el mercado com\u00fan, la ausencia de fronteras f\u00edsicas, facilita la libre circulaci\u00f3n de mercanc\u00edas y la libre competencia. Otras ventajas son los programas de intercambio estudiantiles, los servicios de voluntariado, la defensa de derechos, el amparo consular ampliado en los distintos pa\u00edses\u2026\u201d. Y\u00a0 los inconvenientes que se\u00f1ala son \u201cpues los que no gustan a nadie: que cuando uno quiere formar parte de un proyecto com\u00fan, de una gran aventura com\u00fan, pues tiene un precio; tiene que hacer una serie de sacrificios, aportar un dinero a un presupuesto com\u00fan, y no se puede hacer siempre lo que se desea\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cPara reconciliar al ciudadano con la idea europe\u00edsta -indica \u00cf\u00f1igo Cruz- claramente hace falta mejorar la comunicaci\u00f3n. Uno de los problemas reconocidos por la Union Europea es que no ha sabido conquistar el coraz\u00f3n de los ciudadanos; lo que conocemos como \u201cBruselas\u201d, ese conjunto de instituciones, no han cultivado un acercamiento al ciudadano, y esto a su vez se ha visto agravado a medida que el proyecto europeo ha ido ganando complejidad. Tambi\u00e9n se requiere a nivel nacional\/local una contribuci\u00f3n de los gobiernos. Deben renunciar a esa comodidad demag\u00f3gica de echar la culpa de sus males a las instituciones europeas.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Adem\u00e1s considera que la crisis de los refugiados tambi\u00e9n afecta a la percepci\u00f3n negativa del proyecto europeo: \u201cen Espa\u00f1a no la padecen directamente porque los flujos migratorios tienen otras rutas, pero se percibe el desastre de la gesti\u00f3n. Y sobre todo porque uno de los pilares b\u00e1sicos de la Uni\u00f3n Europea, que es Schengen, se ha venido abajo: ahora mismo cada pa\u00eds hace lo que quiere. Con lo cual se est\u00e1 viendo que no funciona, que la Uni\u00f3n Europea se est\u00e1 viniendo abajo\u201d.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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Fernando Morag\u00f3n tampoco cree, sin embargo, que ninguna fuerza pol\u00edtica en Espa\u00f1a se plantee seriamente abandonar la Uni\u00f3n: \u201cNi PP, ni PSOE ni Ciudadanos se van a oponer a nada de lo que venga de la Uni\u00f3n Europea, y Podemos, que ser\u00eda el m\u00e1s cr\u00edtico, tampoco propone salir de la Uni\u00f3n europea: propone reformarla\u201d.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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Uni\u00f3n: \u201cQuiz\u00e1, antes de la crisis del 2008 era algo m\u00e1s f\u00e1cil verlas. Estaba la ventaja del Espacio Schengen, que ahora est\u00e1 desapareciendo, al haber quedado suspendida en varios pa\u00edses; el euro, la moneda com\u00fan, que en principio parec\u00eda una ventaja ha demostrado ser ahora mismo un problema, porque al no haber unidad fiscal est\u00e1 creando unas desigualdades brutales entre pa\u00edses del norte y pa\u00edses del sur\u2026a mi juicio, actualmente, casi todos son inconvenientes\u201d. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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Para restaurar la confianza del ciudadano en la Uni\u00f3n Europea, dice Fernando Morag\u00f3n, \u201chabr\u00eda que refundarla. Empezar por hacerla m\u00e1s democr\u00e1tica. El Parlamento Europeo sigue pintando muy poco. Es cierto lo que se ha dicho siempre: al final las decisiones terminan tom\u00e1ndolas gente que no ha sido elegida directamente por los diferentes pa\u00edses ni en las elecciones al Parlamento Europeo; es decir, las toma una \u00e9lite de funcionarios que gozan de un sistema de puertas giratorias. Al final est\u00e1n muy desconectados y aplican pol\u00edticas de austeridad que no van a ning\u00fan lado, m\u00e1s centradas en recatar a los bancos que en rescatar a la gente.<\/span><\/p>\n

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En cuanto a la pol\u00edtica exterior de la Uni\u00f3n, Fernando Morag\u00f3n est\u00e1 muy interesado en se\u00f1alar que \u201cla pol\u00edtica de sanciones contra Rusia me parece una equivocaci\u00f3n tremenda. Est\u00e1 da\u00f1ando a Rusia, est\u00e1 da\u00f1ando a Ucrania, est\u00e1 da\u00f1ando a la Uni\u00f3n Europea\u2026 y a los \u00fanicos a los que beneficia es a los Estados Unidos, que tienen una relaci\u00f3n comercial con Rusia muy peque\u00f1a. Y al mismo tiempo, esas sanciones las sufren las poblaciones, como pas\u00f3 en Ir\u00e1n, como pas\u00f3 en Cuba y como pasar\u00e1 en cualquier otro sitio.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abLa pol\u00edtica de sanciones contra Rusia me parece una equivocaci\u00f3n tremenda. Est\u00e1 da\u00f1ando a Rusia, est\u00e1 da\u00f1ando a Ucrania, est\u00e1 da\u00f1ando a la Uni\u00f3n Europea\u2026 y a los \u00fanicos a los que beneficia es a los Estados Unidos\u00bb<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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El problema es que desgraciadamente la Uni\u00f3n Europea est\u00e1 muy subordinada a Estados Unidos en todo este tipo de cosas, con lo cual no se acabar\u00e1n las sanciones hasta que Estados Unidos no quiera. Es curioso incluso el caso de Espa\u00f1a. Yo he notado incluso que, aunque el Partido Popular tenga que secundar oficialmente el tema de las sanciones para no salirse de las lineas marcadas por la Uni\u00f3n Europea, ellos no son muy partidarios. Adem\u00e1s para Espa\u00f1a no es un asunto prioritario; hay otros muchos m\u00e1s cercanos y urgentes.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Y esto es otro de los s\u00edntomas de este proceso de desintegraci\u00f3n de la Uni\u00f3n Europea: hay distintos grupos de pa\u00edses con intereses absolutamente contrapuestos. El grupo b\u00e1ltico, por ejemplo, est\u00e1 m\u00e1s preocupado por el tema de Rusia y Ucrania, mientras los pa\u00edses del Sur est\u00e1n m\u00e1s preocupados por la crisis de los refugiados.Son intereses demasiado diferentes e irreconciliables en un grupo grande de pa\u00edses: son 28 pa\u00edses, no hay que olvidarlo\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n

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According to the report entitled \u00abEuroscepticism beyond of the Brexit\u00bb, carried out by the Pew Research Center, Spain is among the three countries whose citizens have a more negative view of the European Union, behind only Greece and France.<\/span><\/p>\n

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At first glance, the wave of euro-skepticism, reflecting this probe, which featured a sample of 10,000 people in ten European countries (Germany, France, Spain, United Kingdom, Greece, Poland, Hungary, Sweden, Holland and Italy) seems easily attributable to three fundamental problems: the current immigration crisis, the suffering caused by the austerity policies, and the crisis of the European bloc itself on which you plan to even the shadow of the referendum’s stay in the United Kingdom, popularly known as \u00abBrexit\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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In RT, we wanted to deepen the analysis of the causes of this growing antipathy citizens towards the European Union, with the help of two experts familiar with the history and the reality of the region, distant however in its stance in this regard<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00cd\u00f1igo Cruz Martinez is Vice President of the Union of Europeans and federalists in Madrid (UEF), and author of the blog already \u00abEuropean semos\u00bb, a sympathetic initiative online to facilitate the access of citizens to the understanding of the European Union. In his opinion, the reasons that explain the antipathy of Greece, France and Spain have mainly a double common root: \u00abon the one hand, the refugee crisis affects considerably the image of the European Union as a whole. And on the other hand, local governments have used as excuse the failure together from all countries, for guilt and bad image falls on the European Union, when really are the nation States which in many cases are not acting well. It must be reminded, for example, that the President of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, more than one year, proposed a plan of hosting refugees was accepted officially, but in practice no State met him, except Germany and the Nordic countries. In the case of Greece, we must also add that they have felt a lack of common solidarity and have perceived it as a problem of the European Union as a whole<\/span><\/p>\n

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With respect to Spain, \u00cd\u00f1igo Cruz believes that \u00abthe main reason of this antipathy to the European Union are the austerity policies, combined with the overall effect of the immigration crisis. The Spanish Government has shielded, to carry out adjustments and cutbacks, in that Brussels imposed it, but the reality is that being part of a common currency and a common structure as it is the European Union, we have a series of commitments and duties. The European Union is there to ensure that. But it is very comfortable blaming another for local governments. Remember that since the Commission itself years ago that you were requiring a series of improvements in our economic system, and these reforms were not carried out at the time; and this has a price. Often citizenship perceived that the guilt comes from the outside, but domestic effort is needed in order to comply and be up to date. Not is should blame the club common if we are those who do not meet all standards from the beginning<\/span><\/p>\n

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Asked about the possible existence of any political force in Spain who might be interested in force or to propose a way out of Espa\u00f1a of the European Union or the Eurogroup, he responds that \u00abit is true that used that of the euro as a political issue, but only in a populist way. Among the four major forces, say that one of them, intending to focus on the vote in their favor, can touch that line, but even so, when reality comes to the Government is that not it may escape from the European project without paying a very high price, much larger than the living within. Popularly it is said that within the European Union it is wrong, but outside it’s a lot more cold.\u00bb<\/span><\/p>\n

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According to Cruz, the advantages of belonging to the European Union \u00abare many, but we don’t want to see them.\u00bb Sometimes with the passage of time we become accustomed to the good and forget where it comes; as for example the peace that reigns among the Member States. It is also shown empirically that the common market, the absence of physical borders, facilitates the free movement of goods and freedom of competition. Other advantages are student exchange programs, volunteer services, the defence of rights, the consular protection extended in different countries… \u00ab.\u00bb And the disadvantages which points are \u00abas those who do not like anyone: that when one wants to be part of a common project, of a great common adventure, as it has a price;\u00bb you have to make a series of sacrifices, contribute money to a common budget, and you can’t always what is desired.\u00bb<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abTo reconcile citizens with the European idea – I\u00f1igo cross – clearly need to improve communication. One of the problems recognized by the European Union is that it has failed to conquer the hearts of the citizens; What is known as ‘Brussels’, this set of institutions, have not grown an approach to the citizen, and this in turn has been aggravated as the European project has been gaining complexity. National\/local level also required a contribution of Governments. They must renounce the comfort demagogic of the blame for their woes to the European institutions.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Also considers that the refugee crisis also affects the negative perception of the European project: \u00abin Spain not suffering directly because migration flows have other routes, but is perceived the disaster management. And especially because one of the basic pillars of the European Union, which is Schengen, has come down: now each country does what it wants. Which is being that it does not work, that the European Union is coming down\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Fernando Morag\u00f3n also believes, however, that no political force in Spain arises seriously leave the Union: \u00abPP, PSOE nor citizens are going to oppose anything that comes from the European Union, and we can, which would be the most critical, nor proposes to leave the European Union: proposed reform it\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Union: \u00abperhaps, before the 2008 crisis was something easier to see them. It was the advantage of the Schengen area, which is now disappearing, having been suspended in several countries; the euro, the common currency, which at first seemed an advantage has proven to be a problem, right now because not having fiscal unit is creating a brutal inequalities between countries of the North and the South… in my opinion, currently, almost all are inconvenient.<\/span><\/p>\n

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To restore the confidence of the citizen in the European Union, says Fernando Morag\u00f3n, ‘we should recreate it. Start by making it more democratic. The European Parliament is still little painting. It is true that it has always said: in the end the decisions end up taking them people who not has been chosen directly by the different countries or in elections to the European Parliament; i.e., an elite of officials who have a revolving door system takes them. At the end they are very disconnected and apply austerity policies will not on any side, more centered to rescue banks than rescuing people<\/span><\/p>\n

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On the foreign policy of the Union, Fernando Morag\u00f3n is keen to point out that the policy of sanctions against Russia. \u00abI think a tremendous mistake. It is damaging to Russia, it is damaging to Ukraine, it is damaging to the European Union… and the only ones that benefit is to the United States, which have a business relationship with Russia very small. And at the same time, these sanctions populations, suffer as he spent in Iran, as happened in Cuba and as it will happen everywhere else.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00ab\u00bb \u00abThe policy of sanctions against Russia seems a tremendous mistake. \u00ab\u00bb It is damaging to Russia, it is damaging to Ukraine, it is damaging to the European Union… and the only ones that benefit is to the United States ‘ \u00ab<\/span><\/p>\n

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The problem is that unfortunately the European Union is very subordinate to United States in all this sort of thing, so sanctions will not end until the United States does not want to. It’s funny even the case of Spain. I’ve noticed even that, even if the people’s Party have to officially support the issue of sanctions for not leaving the lines set down by the European Union, they are not very partisan. In addition to Spain, it is not a matter of priority; There are many other more urgent and close.<\/span><\/p>\n

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And this is one of the symptoms of this process of disintegration of the European Union: there are different groups of countries with quite conflicting interests. The Baltic group, for example, is more concerned about the issue of Russia and Ukraine, while the countries of the South are more concerned about the refugee crisis. \u00abThey are too different and irreconcilable interests in a large group of countries: they are 28 countries, we must not forget\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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