{"id":17431,"date":"2012-03-26T13:41:02","date_gmt":"2012-03-26T11:41:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=17431"},"modified":"2012-03-26T13:41:02","modified_gmt":"2012-03-26T11:41:02","slug":"comentarios-del-dia-26-3-2012-comments-of-the-day","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=17431","title":{"rendered":"Comentarios del d\u00eda. 26.3.2012. Comments of the day"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Vamos a la tertulia del University College<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene\u00a0 el moderador<\/strong>: es natural que los partidos pol\u00edticos aspiren a llegar a la Moncloa, y utilicen los errores de los dem\u00e1s para conseguirlo<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Zapatero cometi\u00f3 errores graves<\/strong> \u00bfComo se le ocurre congelar las pensiones y bajar el sueldo al los funcionarios de golpe? ..se enfrent\u00f3 con 15.000.000 de espa\u00f1oles al menos . Pudo subir los impuestos a todos y la situaci\u00f3n hubiera tenido mejor acogida. <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Pero los errores de<\/strong> zapatero no fueron los responsables de aumento del paro<\/strong> como se ha dicho estos meses en art\u00edculos\u00a0 publicados en prensa por destacado analistas pol\u00edticos.<\/span><\/p>\n

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La causa de nuestra crisis tuvo un efecto exterior<\/strong>, y en nuestro pa\u00eds\u00a0 ya el gobierno del Sr Aznar con Rajoy de ministro, fomentaron la burbuja inmobiliaria .Pero esta burbuja le estall\u00f3 \u00a0a Zapatero .<\/span><\/p>\n

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Inter viene el\u00a0 primero: Rajoy seg\u00fan dicen sac\u00f3 la oposici\u00f3n de registrador de la propiedad a los veintitr\u00e9s a\u00f1os,<\/strong> yo que conozco muy bien como son esas oposiciones, lograrlas reci\u00e9n licenciado, son muy poquitos luego, el era una presumible lumbrera.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el segundo: yo soy muy esc\u00e9ptico ,no me inspiran confianza los pol\u00edticos<\/strong>, en general, cuando hablas con alg\u00fan amigo y te dice la expresi\u00f3n \u201cten cuidado ese es muy politco\u00a0\u00a0 yo\u00a0\u00a0 no\u00a0 \u00a0me fiar\u00eda\u00a0 \u00a0de \u00e9l\u201d\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el tercero: esa imagen de las dos caras del pol\u00edtico hace mucho da\u00f1o a la democracia, <\/strong>me pon\u00eda p\u00e1lido cuando Rajoy le dec\u00eda a Zapatero que el culpable del todo el paro en Espa\u00f1a era\u00a0 \u00e9l, eso fue una distorsi\u00f3n de la Politica<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el cuarto: si Rajoy era de verdad un registrador, se le pod\u00eda atribuir una cierta altura intelectual ,<\/strong>para situarse objetivamente ante la crisis econ\u00f3mica del pa\u00eds y tratar de ayudar a resolverla . Pero no\u00a0 fue\u00a0 as\u00ed<\/span><\/p>\n

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Quinto: y por ejemplo \u00a0Rajoy pas\u00f3 por alto\u00a0 \u00f3 no tuvo oportunidad de verlos, como me ocurri\u00f3 a mi , en un reciente viaje a Portugal, \u00a0\u00a0pa\u00eds en cuyos\u00a0 informativos pude observar que los dirigentes europeo<\/strong>s, hablaban de la gravedad de la crisis en Grecia y Portugal y a Espa\u00f1a\u00a0 casi no la nombraban<\/strong> \u00f3 no la nombraban en absoluto. Siendo asi que interpreto , que\u00a0 los poderes financieros espa\u00f1oles pod\u00edan inflar esa situaci\u00f3n de crisis en connivencia con sectores financieros europeos<\/strong> (sectores, no todos los poderes financieros) deseaban una Europa conservadora, m\u00e1s concretamente una Espa\u00f1a conservadora, pero que una vez conseguido el cambio de gobierno, exigir\u00e1n a Rajoy \u00a0medidas\u00a0\u00a0 que le costar\u00e1 tomar,que eran las que le ped\u00edan a Zapatero<\/strong> y que el se neg\u00f3 a apoyar rotundamente; Medidas que no van encaminadas a solucionar los problemas de Espa\u00f1a, sino a \u00a0que grupos financieros cada vez ganen m\u00e1s con el m\u00ednimo riesgo.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Dice\u00a0 el sexto :los pol\u00edticos no est\u00e1n\u00a0 a nuestras pol\u00edticas ,sino a las suyas,<\/strong> yo sufro cuando dicen que se sacrifican al servicio de los ciudadanos<\/span><\/p>\n

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Septimo: \u00a0no quiero juzgar a todo el Pp<\/strong>, que habr\u00e1 gente maja, pero sus l\u00edderes aunque ganen, dan la imagen de inconscientes \u00a0y \u00a0a lo mejor lo son en realidad.<\/span><\/p>\n

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octavo :por eso los movimientos ciudadanos son tan importantes<\/strong> ,para intentar acabar con estos pol\u00edticos fruto de campa\u00f1as de asesoramiento de imagen\u00a0 que ya los votantes empiezan a rechazar<\/span><\/p>\n

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noveno: a mi me decepcion\u00f3 Rajoy en las votaciones del parlamento<\/strong>, si Zapatero dec\u00eda que hab\u00eda que\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 prolongar la jubilaci\u00f3n hasta los sesenta y siete a\u00f1os<\/strong>, aunque estuviese de acuerdo ,como le pod\u00eda perjudicar\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0vot\u00f3 en contra<\/strong>, porque la informaci\u00f3n que le llegaba era que amplios sectores del electorado de todos los colores del arco parlamentario quer\u00edan jubilarse cuanto primero mejor, olvidando todos ellos ,Pol\u00edticos y electores que el problema demogr\u00e1fico nos lleva\u00a0 a que no hay trabajadores cotizando para pagar esas pensiones y ese problema demogr\u00e1fico no tiene color pol\u00edtico.<\/span><\/p>\n

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The moderator<\/strong> intervenes<\/strong>: it is natural that political parties aspiring to reach the Moncloa, and use the mistakes of others to achieve
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But Zapatero errors were responsible for rising unemployment as has been said in recent months in the press articles published by leading political analysts.
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\nThe cause of our crisis had an effect without, and in our country and the government of Mr Aznar and Rajoy minister, encouraged the housing bubble. But this bubble will burst Zapatero<\/span><\/p>\n

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.. Involving first: say Rajoy’s opposition took registrar of property at twenty-three, me I know very well how are these oppositions, achieve new graduate, are very few then, he was a presumed port.
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Involving the third, the image of both sides of the political is very damaging to democracy, I turned pale when Zapatero told Rajoy that the culprit of all unemployment in Spain was he, that was a distortion of the Policy
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Fifth, and for example Rajoy ignored or had no opportunity to see them, as happened to me on a recent trip to Portugal, whose information I could see that the European leaders talked about the seriousness of the crisis in Greece and Portugal and Spain almost not appointed or not appointed at all. As well I play, the Spanish financial powers could inflate this crisis in collusion with European financial sectors (sectors, not all financial powers) wanted a conservative Europe, more specifically a conservative Spain, but once you have the change government, Rajoy require taking measures that will cost, who were asking him to Zapatero and that flatly refused to support, measures that are aimed at solving the problems of Spain, but to gain financial groups increasingly more minimum risk<\/span><\/p>\n

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Says Six: politicians are not our policies, but to theirs, I suffer when they say who sacrifice to serve the citizens
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eight: why citizens’ movements are so important, to try to end these political campaigns result of image advice and voters begin to decline
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\nninth: Rajoy disappoint my voting in the parliament, Zapatero said that if we had to extend the retirement until the sixty-seven years, but would agree, as it could harm voted against because the information that came was that large segments of the electorate in every color of the political spectrum wanted to retire as the first best, forgetting all politicians and voters that the population problem leads to no trading workers to pay these pensions and the population problem has no political color.<\/span><\/p>\n

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