{"id":16312,"date":"2012-02-01T17:59:58","date_gmt":"2012-02-01T15:59:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=16312"},"modified":"2012-02-01T17:59:58","modified_gmt":"2012-02-01T15:59:58","slug":"se-avecinan-grandes-cambios-big-changes-are-ahead","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=16312","title":{"rendered":"Se avecinan grandes cambios. Big changes are ahead"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Se avecinan grandes cambios. <\/strong>Big changes are ahead<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el moderador<\/strong>:\u00a0 tanto Estados Unidos como la zona Europea, se encuentran sumidos en una crisis, pero en vez de entrar a fondo en ella, se van por las ramas.\u00a0 La crisis no est\u00e1 solo en \u00a0el \u00a0endeudamiento de los estados, sino en los propios estados al aplicar una pol\u00edtica neoliberal que \u00a0ha fracasado<\/strong>. El capital es neutro, lo que ya no es neutro es su mala distribuci\u00f3n y los responsables, \u00a0son casi en su mayor\u00eda las democracias de corte occidental<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el primero<\/strong>: En un mundo globalizado, todos estamos conectados, y Estados Unidos y Europa pensaron que eran los due\u00f1os del mundo<\/strong> y que los pa\u00edses emergentes China, India ,Brasil, Sud- \u00c1frica \u00a0ect.) se mov\u00edan en la pobreza y la miseria y su retraso estructural durar\u00eda siglos. \u00a0China ya no es la China de Mao, se ha contagiado del libre comercio que ha tra\u00eddo la globalizaci\u00f3n <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el segundo<\/strong> :cuando cay\u00f3 la antigua Uni\u00f3n Sovi\u00e9tica, Europa y Estados Unidos celebraron su ca\u00edda, al menos porque se acababa la amenaza de una guerra \u00a0nuclear. Pero el comunismo no cay\u00f3 porque pretendiera un reparto m\u00e1s igualitario de la riqueza, sino porque no lo hizo<\/strong> y sus l\u00edderes en general se corrompieron con motivo de la dictadura . Por lo tanto, no sirve el razonamiento de muchos \u00a0americanos que tiene que haber pobres y ricos y que \u00a0la existencia de desiguales es lo normal. Lo que no es normal es la existencia de enormes desigualdades<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el tercero<\/strong>: yo me siento abrumado cuando veo el programa de tv ,que nos pone de modelo esas lujos\u00edsimas mansiones<\/strong>, con toda clase de comodidades y servicios .Millones de personas que ven ese programa, tienen que hacer cola en su \u00fanico o compartido w\u00e1ter .<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el cuarto<\/strong>: a mi me est\u00e1 alarmando la compra de tierras en \u00c1frica e Hispano- Am\u00e9rica por grandes potencias econ\u00f3micas<\/strong>. Le\u00eda un a entrevista a\u00a0 SASKIA SASSEN<\/strong> esta semana \u00a0donde comentaba que en \u00c1frica , las compras que hace China de sus tierras (para proveerse de las materias primas que necesita) ,esta obligando a emigrar a la poblaci\u00f3n nativa.\u00a0\u00a0 Seg\u00fan \u00e9sta soci\u00f3loga ,con el tiempo, los nativos del campo se ver\u00e1n obligado a ir a las ciudades globalizadas .<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el quinto<\/strong>: \u00a0es muy duro decirlo, pero con los avances tecnol\u00f3gicos, la agricultura ecol\u00f3gica , la que practicaron los nativos durante varios siglos, va a quedar como un lujo<\/strong> tur\u00edstico y las grandes multinacionales, utilizaran las tierra para producir alimentos en cultivos masivos altamente tecnificados y de momento con gran rendimiento por el abuso de fertilizantes y herbicidas.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el sexto<\/strong>: yo he seguido este a\u00f1o la reuni\u00f3n de los ricos en Davos, y est\u00e1n asustados ante los movimientos contra las grandes desigualdades econ\u00f3micas en los pa\u00edses \u00e1rabes<\/strong> y en otras partes del mundo .Se cuestionan si en realidad sus \u00a0pol\u00edticas neoliberales est\u00e1n siendo acertadas en estos\u00a0 momentos .Incluso est\u00e1n viendo con buenos ojos que China compre parte de la deuda de Europa <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el s\u00e9ptimo<\/strong>: el mundo va a cambiar y no tardando mucho, Los chinos a lo suyo a hacerse los due\u00f1os del mundo<\/strong> y los americanos decadentes, siguen con guerras absurdas que les obligan a enormes gastos militares y por lo tanto a empobrecerse. No se dan cuenta que lo que da de comer son las tierras no los fusiles<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el octavo<\/strong>: no seamos ingenuos, que las grandes multinacionales terminar\u00e1n instal\u00e1ndose en China ,la India<\/strong> y otros pa\u00edses asi\u00e1ticos donde los salarios son mucho m\u00e1s bajos. Y esta infravaloraci\u00f3n de los salarios se introducir\u00e1 en los pa\u00edses occidentales. Y se dir\u00e1 si quieres lo tomas as\u00ed y si no lo dejas, que hay muchos a la cola. Los sindicatos carecer\u00e1n de fuerza y los movimientos \u00a0sociales amenazar\u00e1n el sistema capitalista que al final caer\u00e1 como cayeron las dictaduras \u00e1rabes <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el noveno<\/strong>: si lo ves as\u00ed \u00a0se puede crear una gran revoluci\u00f3n mundial. No es que se vaya a crear sino que se crear\u00e1,cuando China, la India y los pa\u00edses asi\u00e1ticos se hagan due\u00f1os de todo, impondr\u00e1n sus condiciones laborales<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el decimo: est\u00e1 claro que bajo el punto de vista tecnol\u00f3gico no hay posibilidades de retroceso y la naturaleza se ver\u00e1 deformada como dec\u00eda Schumacher<\/strong>, hemos convertido el campo en enormes plantaciones de monocultivos. Cuando le\u00ed su libro (Lo peque\u00f1o es hermoso, hoy en google) qued\u00e9 sorprendido por su sentido prof\u00e9tico, en la costa Asturiana los pastizales naturales que utilizaron nuestros bisabuelos ahora son inmensos campos de cultivo de ma\u00edz de varios kms de extensi\u00f3n<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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The moderator<\/strong> intervened<\/strong>: both the U.S. and European area, are mired in a crisis, but instead of going deep into it, go around the bush. The crisis is not alone in borrowing by the states, but the states themselves to implement a neoliberal policy has failed. Capital is neutral, which is no longer neutral is its poor distribution and the perpetrators are almost entirely Western-style democracies
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Spoke first: In a globalized world, we are all connected, and the United States and Europe thought they owned the world and emerging countries China, India, Brazil, South Africa, ect.) Moved into poverty and misery and structural delay would last forever. China is no longer the China of Mao, has caught the free trade globalization has brought<\/span><\/p>\n

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Involving the second, when it dropped the former Soviet Union, Europe and the United States held its fall, at least because they had the threat of nuclear war. But communism did not fall because it sought a more equitable sharing of wealth, but because he did not and their leaders are generally corrupted by reason of the dictatorship. Therefore, the argument does not serve many Americans who have to be rich and poor and that the existence of unequal is normal. What is not normal is the huge inequalities
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Involving the third, I feel overwhelmed when I see the TV show, we put these most luxurious model mansions, with all sorts of amenities and services. Millions of people watching this program, have to queue at your sole or shared toilet . <\/span>
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Involving the fourth, to me is alarming the purchase of land in Afica and Hispano-America by major economic powers. I read an interview with Saskia Sassen this week which said that in Africa, China purchases made from their lands (to provide the necessary raw materials), is obliged to emigrate to the native population. According to this sociologist, over time, the natives of the field will be forced to go to globalized cities.
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Involving the fifth, it is very hard to say, but with advances in technology, farming, practiced by the natives for centuries, will be a luxury resort and big multinationals, use the land to produce food in mass cultures highly technical and time in high yield by the overuse of fertilizers and herbicides.
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Involved the sixth, I have followed this year’s meeting in Davos rich and are scared of the big movements against economic inequality in the Arab countries and elsewhere. The question whether neoliberal policies actually being successful at this time. they are even looking kindly on China to buy some debt in Europe
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Involving the seventh, the world will change and before long, the Chinese about their business to become the masters of the world and Americans decadent, still with senseless wars that require them to huge military expenditures and therefore impoverished.
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Involving the eight: we are not naive, that large corporations will end up settling in China, India and other Asian countries where wages are much lower. And this underestimation of wages will be introduced in Western countries. The unions have no power and social movements threaten the capitalist system that eventually fall as the Arab dictatorships fell
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Involving the ninth: if you see it so you can create a world revolution. Not that it will create will be created., When China, India and other Asian countries become masters of everything, working conditions imposed
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Involving the tenth: it is clear that under the technological point of view there is no possibility of retreat and nature will be deformed as Schumacher said, we have turned the country into huge monoculture plantations. When I read his book (Small is beautiful, now google) I was surprised by his prophetic sense, on the Asturian Coast rangelands used by our great-grandparents are now vast fields of maize extension of several kms<\/span><\/p>\n

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