{"id":15384,"date":"2011-11-02T23:15:54","date_gmt":"2011-11-02T21:15:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=15384"},"modified":"2011-11-02T23:49:22","modified_gmt":"2011-11-02T21:49:22","slug":"la-crisis-economica-nos-convertira-en-ciudadanos-de-primera","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?p=15384","title":{"rendered":"Con la crisis econ\u00f3mica nos convertiremos en ciudadanos de primera. With the economic crisis we will become first class citizens"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Vamos a la tertulia del University College<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

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La crisis econ\u00f3mica nos \u00a0convertir\u00e1 en ciudadanos de primera<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el moderador: la crisis de Grecia traer\u00e1 consigo la ca\u00edda de las democracias occidental<\/strong>es. Pues seriamos ingenuos pensando que la ca\u00edda de los reg\u00edmenes \u00e1rabes autoritarios fue motivada solo por la falta de libertad. Diversos analistas comentaron que la rebeli\u00f3n de los ciudadanos fue por la corrupci\u00f3n de los pol\u00edticos y como consecuencia la falta de empleo<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el primer \u00a0contertulio: Est\u00e1 claro que al comentar la corrupci\u00f3n de los pol\u00edticos, no me refiero solo a a las cuestiones monetarias, sino al tr\u00e1fico de influencias y a la caducidad del propio sistema pol\u00edtico actual.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el \u00a0segundo: Est\u00e1 claro que los sistemas parlamentarios actuales, est\u00e1 n ya con fecha de caducidad<\/strong> desde hace alg\u00fan tiempo, no representan a \u00a0nadie ya, han perdido su credibilidad ante los ciudadanos.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el tercero: son muchas las personas desencantadas de los pol\u00edticos actuales<\/strong>, cuando lo manifiestan a\u00f1aden, las cosas no se pueden cambiar.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el cuarto: y dice la verdad las cosas no se pueden cambiar por la v\u00eda pacifica<\/strong> , pero esta v\u00eda tiene los d\u00edas contados, se impondr\u00e1 una nueva revoluci\u00f3n que no ser\u00e1 el comunismo sino \u201cel ciudadanismo<\/strong>\u201d ,con igualdad de derechos y deberes para todos, donde no cabe la actual clase pol\u00edtica<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el quinto: la reforma pol\u00edtica ya no podr\u00e1 partir de los pol\u00edticos actuales desacreditado<\/strong>s, sino de gente nueva que sal ga del pueblo y configure un sistema de participaci\u00f3n ciudadana mas justa<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el sexto: tiene toda la raz\u00f3n surgir\u00e1 necesariamente un nuevo moviemto pol\u00edtico ciudadano con car\u00e1cter revolucionario.<\/strong> Y para mantenerse tendr\u00e1 que acudir a una fuerza neutral el ej\u00e9rcito<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el s\u00e9ptimo: est\u00e1 claro que la sustituci\u00f3n del sistema pol\u00edtico actual caduco por uno nuevo m\u00e1s acorde con el sentir de los ciudadanos, se tendr\u00e1 que hacer por la fuerza y con apoyo de las fuerzas armada<\/strong>s. Siempre hay el peligro de una guerra civil\u2026todo se ver\u00e1<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interviene el octavo: \u00bfPorqu\u00e9 Papandreu convoca un refer\u00e9ndum?, puede ser bien porque los servicios de inteligencia<\/strong> le anuncian un posible golpe milit<\/strong>ar o porque dada por perdida la votaci\u00f3n de confianza, \u00e9l se lava las manos como Pilatos<\/span><\/p>\n

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The moderator intervened: the crisis in Greece will bring the downfall of the Western democracies. Because it would be naive to think that the fall of authoritarian Arab regimes was motivated only by the lack of freedom. Several analysts said that the rebellion of the citizens was the corruption of politicians and consequently the lack of employment<\/span><\/p>\n

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Spoke first: It is clear that when discussing the corruption of politicians, I mean not only money matters, but to influence peddling and the expiration of the current political system.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Involving the second: It is clear that the current parliamentary systems, are already with an expiration date for some time, do not represent anyone and have lost their credibility with the public.
\nInvolving the third, there are many people disenchanted with the current politicians.
\nInvolving the fourth, and tells the truth of things can not be changed by peaceful means, but this route has its days numbered, shall be imposed a new revolution that is not communism but \u00abcitizens\u00bb with equal rights and duties all, where there is not the current political class<\/span><\/p>\n

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Fifth intervenes: political reform can no longer from today’s politicians discredited, but new people get out of town and set up a system of citizen participation fairer
\nInvolving the sixth, has every reason necessarily arise a new political movements at citizen revolutionary character. And to keep will have to go to a neutral military force
\nInvolving the seventh, it is clear that replacing the current political system obsolete by a new one more in tune with the feelings of the citizens, will have to do by force and with the support of the armed forces. There is always the danger of civil war … everything will be<\/span><\/p>\n

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. Involved the eighth: Why Papandreou called for a referendum?, May be either because the intelligence services will announce a possible military coup or because loss given by the vote of confidence, he washes his hands like Pilate<\/span><\/p>\n

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