{"id":9157,"date":"2010-10-29T19:57:28","date_gmt":"2010-10-29T17:57:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?page_id=9157"},"modified":"2010-10-29T19:57:28","modified_gmt":"2010-10-29T17:57:28","slug":"la-caida-del-muro-de-berlin-y-sus-consecuencias-the-fall-of-berlin-wall-and-its-consequences","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/www.floracantabrica.com\/?page_id=9157","title":{"rendered":"LA CA\u00cdDA DEL MURO DE BERLIN Y SUS CONSECUENCIAS.THE FALL OF BERLIN WALL AND ITS CONSEQUENCES"},"content":{"rendered":"

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LA CA\u00cdDA DEL MURO DE BERLIN Y SUS CONSECUENCIAS<\/span><\/p>\n

Vamos a la tertulia del University College<\/span><\/p>\n

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El moderador interviene:\u201d hoy los titulares de prensa destacan la reuni\u00f3n de Angela Merkel, Nicolas Sarkozy y Dimitri Medv\u00e9dev \u00a0que discuten,( en Deauville, la gran ciudad balneario de la costa normanda), la creaci\u00f3n de un comit\u00e9 pol\u00edtico y de seguridad euro-ruso que pudiera \u00abasociar\u00bb a Mosc\u00fa a la pol\u00edtica com\u00fan europea de seguridad y defensa. Por otro lado, tambi\u00e9n se comenta en los peri\u00f3dicos:\u00a0 que el plan franco-alem\u00e1n para cambiar el Tratado abre una batalla en la UE.y que Sarkozy y Merkel acordaron mayor dureza contra los infractores.<\/span><\/p>\n

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El primero interviene:\u201d veo que todo est\u00e1 revuelto y hay que remontarse a la era de Gorbachov<\/em>, que fracas\u00f3 en su intento de mantener unida las Republicas sovi\u00e9ticas y el osado de Yeltsin se hizo con el poder en la republica m\u00e1s importante de Rusia y\u00a0 a consecuencia de eso la \u00a0URSS se derrumb\u00f3\u201d,\u201d.Me acuerdo de Gorbachov <\/em>que<\/em>,en su visita a Espa\u00f1a con el presidente Bush en \u00a01989), dec\u00eda que hab\u00eda perdido todo el mando, el hombre que fue el m\u00e1s poderoso del mundo\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interrumpe el segundo; \u201cla ca\u00edda del muro de Berl\u00edn, cambi\u00f3 las estrategias mundiales de defensa y la Otan carec\u00eda de sentido, porque representaba una amenaza contra la URSS, que en el fondo se hab\u00eda desvanecido\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cDespu\u00e9s de la ca\u00edda del muro se ha dicho de la importancia de la Otan en los antiguos pa\u00edses de la URSS, pero todo es opinable. La desintegraci\u00f3n de los antiguos pa\u00edses de la Uni\u00f3n sovi\u00e9tica, era un fen\u00f3meno inevitable y todav\u00eda Europa y Estados unidos no se fiaban de Rusia, pero ahora se viven nuevos tiempos y nos preocupa el terrorismo del Islam , \u00a0la amenaza de Ir\u00e1n si consigue la bomba at\u00f3mica.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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EL tercero\u00a0 teoriza:\u201d los europeos nos unimos por los intereses econ\u00f3micos en un principio, el \u201cfamoso mercado com\u00fan\u201d y ah\u00ed\u2026\u2026. nos deber\u00edamos \u00a0\u00a0haber parado y reflexionar sobre como quer\u00edamos la Uni\u00f3n Europea.Todo lo hemos hecho al rev\u00e9s y con precipitaci\u00f3n. Es una pena que \u00a0los grandes problemas que tiene la humanidad se lo dejemos de forma total a los pol\u00edticos establecidos. No cabe duda que\u00a0 algunos son de gran val\u00eda ,pero una mayor\u00eda son vividores que quieren trepar \u00a0y sin una suficiente preparaci\u00f3n. Por eso yo soy partidario de los movimientos como el Coffee Party que tratan de seguir las actuaciones de los gobiernos y censuran sus equivocaciones y tratan de encontrar soluciones.<\/span><\/p>\n

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En las campa\u00f1as electorales se busca la imagen del pol\u00edtico que da votos y si no tiene imagen fuera. Los temas son muy serios para ser tratados tan fr\u00edvolamente. Pocas veces se oye que un pol\u00edtico se haya arruinado por su actividad, m\u00e1s bien se han enriquecido a niveles inadmisibles. Cuanto me gustar\u00eda que cuando un pol\u00edtico se retirase se le tuviese que ayudar econ\u00f3micamente, porque se qued\u00f3 sin un duro .<\/span><\/p>\n

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Para los consejeros de la Presidencia de Obama, sus objetivos son que pueda ser elegido en un segundo mandato, pero los del Coffee party, pueden tener sus dudas, por el precio que tenga que pagar por su reelecci\u00f3n.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

El cuarto aparece , a mi me parece muy bien la uni\u00f3n de La Uni\u00f3n Europea con Rusia y que se suprima la Otan,es de sentido com\u00fan, pero los pol\u00edticos \u00a0a veces por su peque\u00f1ez de miras \u00a0lo embrollan todo<\/span><\/p>\n

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El quinto comenta:\u201d hay que estar en la actualidad, Rusia puede ser muy \u00fatil para acabar con la Guerra de Afganist\u00e1n, que en el fondo es una guerra mundial contra una poblaci\u00f3n religiosa, que discrepa profundamente con las costumbres occidentales y hay que admitir la diversidad de culturas \u00a0y no considerar la cultura occidental como un dogma.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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Come to the gathering of University College<\/span><\/p>\n

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The moderator intervenes:\u00bb today the headlines in the press highlights the meeting of Angela Merkel, Nicolas Sarkozy and Dimitri Medv\u00e9dev that discussed,( in Deauville, the big city spa of the Normandy coast), the creation of a political and security euro-russian that could \u00abassociate\u00bb to Moscow to the common European policy on security and defense.<\/span><\/p>\n

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On the other hand, it also says in the newspapers: that the plan franco-german to change the Treaty opens a battle in the EU.and that Sarkozy and Merkel agreed more harshly against offenders<\/span><\/p>\n

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The first intervenes:\u00bb i see that everything is upset and have to go back to the era of Gorbachev, who failed in their attempt to keep the Soviet Republics and the daring of Yeltsin took power in the republic more important in Russia and as a result the USSR collapsed\u00bb,\u00bb.remembrance of Gorbachev that,in his visit to Spain with president Bush in 1989), said that he had lost all command, the man who was the most powerful of the world\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Interrupted the second; \u00abthe fall of the Berlin wall, changed the global strategies of defense and Nato was meaningless, because it represented a threat against the Soviet Union, which in the fund had waned\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00abAfter the fall of the wall has been said about the importance of Nato in the former countries of the USSR, but everything is debatable. The disintegration of the former countries of the Soviet Union, was an inevitable phenomenon and still Europe and the United States do not trust of Russia, but it is now living new times and we are concerned about terrorism of Islam, the threat of Iran if it gets the atomic bomb.\u00bb<\/span><\/p>\n

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The third theorizes:\u00bb we Europeans are joined by the economic interests in a principle, the \u00abfamous common market\u00bb and hence\u2026\u2026. we should have stopped and reflect on as we wanted the European Union.Everything we have done to the setback and with precipitation. It is a pity that the major problems that have the humanity is the bearing of a total of politicians set. There is no doubt that some are of great value ,but a majority are freeloaders who want climb and without adequate preparation.<\/span><\/p>\n

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In the electoral campaigns are looking for the image of political giving votes and if you have no image outside. The issues are very serious to be treated so frivolously. Rarely hears that a politician has been ruined by its activity, rather, they have enriched to unacceptable levels. As i would like that when a politician to withdraw it would have to help economically, because it was without money<\/span><\/p>\n

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For the advisory of the Presidency of Obama, its objectives are to be elected in a second term, but the Coffee party, can have their doubts, at the price that he have to pay for his re-election.\u00bb<\/span><\/p>\n

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The fourth appears, it seems to me very well the union of the European Union with Russia and the deletion of the Nato,it is common sense, but the politicians sometimes by its smallness of view what entangled throughout<\/span><\/p>\n

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The fifth says:\u00bb there are to be at present, Russia can be very helpful to end the war in Afghanistan, which in the fund is a global war against a population religious, that he disagrees deeply with the customs western and we have to admit the diversity of cultures and not to consider the western culture as a dogma.\u00bb<\/span><\/p>\n

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